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North Korea/DPRK is NOT a terrible place by DragonQuestWes North Korea/DPRK is NOT a terrible place by DragonQuestWes
More unpopular opinions from me, Yippee!

What you think you know about North Korea is probably not true. Kim Il-Sung/Jong-Il/Jong-Un aren't "gods" and they certainly aren't dictators either.

They do have elections in North Korea but they don't have "Presidential Elections" because of constituencies (there's no "President of North Korea" and "Eternal President Kim-Il Sung" doesn't mean much). Just look at the results of the latest election they've had. Former British Ambassador to North Korea, Peter Hughes came under fire all because he simply described his observation of the elections as just a celebrating festive attitude rather than demonizing it the entire time.

A Swiss businessman explains his experiences about what he saw in North Korea/DPRK which is hardly anything like the mainstream media said it was. And no he didn't just visit Pyongyang.

A Taiwanese news group went on a trip to North Korea to see what it's like over there and one girl from 5:15 to 5:40 of the video explains how different the reporting actually is when she was in the UK.

Dr. Margaret Chan of the United Nations' World Health Organization visited the country and said that the healthcare is something that "developing countries would envy."

There were programs established by both the local Red Cross and the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies to rebuild the villages as well as providing food, water, medicine etc.

A friend of a friend of mine visited North Korea/DPRK plenty of times to show what it was actually like over there and not what the media says they are.

South Korean Conservative news site Korea JoongAng Daily even admits that defectors are returning to the DPRK. No executions.

Not everything is as it seems because the world doesn't work like Hollywood.

Research and form your own opinions.

Edit: Moved the text to make it a bit more readable.
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CrimsonFALKE Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Best Korea is the opposite of Gay Korea and one of the greatest anti-American trolls of the last thirty years, managing to obtain nuclear weapons and a space program without anybody being strong enough to stop them. When US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright returned from the country in the year 2000 she confirmed that Kim Jong-Il had a tiny missile that he had been repeatedly dipping into her Pu-Tang River.
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015
lolwut
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CrimsonFALKE Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
North Korea is best Korea
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015
oh
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/n…

People machine gunned for watching South Korean movies and having the Bible while thounsands of people including children watched.
great justice system
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015
You are such a Christian fanatic.
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
I am not a fanatic, you didn't give an out of morality and thought, you are a commumist the worst kind and you never do. You don't even know if I am religious or not, why am I a christian fanatic? Theres no reason for you to say that, you did not even the read the source well to even understand. Does owning a bible and having religious freedom is fanaticism? For you and North Korea, seems so. Don't bother thinking too much cuz your non-existen brain might make your head implode
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015
Sorry, but heads do not implode. There's no such thing as a "non-existent" brain.

Welcome to life. You're welcome.
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Jellyfish don't have brains. Come back to the real world when you are thinking being not a commietard
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015
I'm not a jellyfish. I'm a human sir.

I AM in the real world.
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
Not from your point of view, you are sadly far away from reality
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2015
Yes, from my point of view. No I am not "far away from reality." I AM in reality.

People who support Communism aren't delusional. Logic doesn't work that way.
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VanuInfiltrator Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
And now I've stopped taking you seriously...
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015
You didn't stop taking me seriously. You just became more of a shut-in and a neckbeard by refusing to read.
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VanuInfiltrator Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Because a country's government used hackers to hack Sony Pictures because of a movie they didn't like makes it a good place to live.
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015
They never hired hackers whatsoever.

It's been proven by IT experts that North Korea was never behind the hacking nor did they ever hire anybody to hack for them.
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VanuInfiltrator Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Proof please.
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015
As you wish.

I've given you proof, now you can't say that you don't take me seriously. ;)
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VanuInfiltrator Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I stopped taking you seriously before you posted a shit-news site like Yahoo, they're full of nut jobs.
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015
Ah, ah ah! You aren't in any position to say you can't take me seriously. That's a BIG no-no. You asked for proof. You are getting it.

You don't have the right to declare something as "shit-news" just because it doesn't cater to your hikkikomori mentality (I would say basement dwelling to describe you but I don't know if there's a basement where you live).

Just like what Ricky Gervais would say: "Just because you are offended doesn't mean you're in the right."

You have ZERO right to call any news source "full of nut jobs" under any circumstance. ;)
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soulessone12 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015
the real question here is why don't you move there? i mean think about it if its such a nice place to live then you can just simply move there and provide us pictures and journals of life in North Korea
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015
There are plenty of others who have lived/moved there. There are plenty of photos showing what the place is actually like and it's just a country like everywhere else with pros and cons.

DPRK/North Korea is one of the MANY places I plan to visit. There's China (my ancestral homeland), Cuba and Venezuela too.
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soulessone12 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015
ok
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345rv5 Featured By Owner Edited Dec 27, 2014  Hobbyist
LOL. this is going to be a good read.

 Right off the  bat, you're arguments seem like typical White Knighting bullshit.


North Korea functions as a highly centralized, single-party republic. According to its 2009 constitution, it is a revolutionary Socialist state "guided in its activities by the Juche idea and the Songun idea".[72] The Korean Workers' Party has an estimated 3,000,000 members and dominates every aspect of North Korean politics. It has two satellite organizations, the Korean Social Democratic Party and the Chondoist Chongu Party[73] which participate in the KWP-led Democratic Front for the Reunification of the Fatherland. Another highly influential structure is the independent National Defence Commission (NDC). Kim Jong-un of the Kim family heads all major governing structures: he is First Secretary of the KWP, First Chairman of the NDC, and Supreme Commander of the Korean People's Army.[74][75] Kim Il-sung, who died in 1994, is the country's "Eternal President",[76] while Kim Jong-ilwas announced "Eternal General Secretary" after his death in 2011.[74]

The unicameral Supreme People's Assembly (SPA) is the highest organ of state authority and holds the legislative power. Its 687 members are elected every five years by universal suffrage. Supreme People's Assembly sessions are convened by the SPA Presidium, whose president (Kim Yong-nam since 1998) also represents the state in relations with foreign countries. Deputies formally elect the President, the vice-presidents and members of the Presidium and take part in the constitutionally appointed activities of the legislature: pass laws, establish domestic and foreign policies, appoint members of the cabinet, review and approve the state economic plan, among others.[77] However, the SPA itself cannot initiate any legislation independently of Party or state organs. It is unknown whether it has ever criticized or amended bills placed before it, and the elections are based around a single list of KWP-approved candidates who stand without opposition.[78]

Executive power is vested in the Cabinet of North Korea, which is headed by Premier Pak Pong-ju.[79] The Premier represents the government and functions independently. His authority extends over two vice-premiers, 30 ministers, two cabinet commission chairmen, the cabinet chief secretary, the president of the Central Bank, the director of the Central Statistics Bureau and the president of the Academy of Sciences. A 31st ministry, the Ministry of the People's Armed Forces, is under the jurisdiction of the National Defence Commission

How is there a democracy when it's a single party rule ?


North Korea is widely accused of having one of the worst human rights records in the world.[219] North Koreans have been referred to as "some of the world's most brutalized people" by Human Rights Watch, because of the severe restrictions placed on their political and economic freedoms.[220][221] The North Korean population is strictly managed by the state and all aspects of daily life are subordinated to party and state planning. Employment is managed by the party on the basis of political reliability, and travel is tightly controlled by the Ministry of People's Security.[222] Amnesty International also reports of severe restrictions on the freedom of association, expression and movement, arbitrary detention, torture and other ill-treatment resulting in death, and executions.[223] North Korea also applies capital punishment, including public executions. Human rights organizations estimate that 1,193 executions had been carried out in the country by 2009.[224]

The State Security Department extrajudicially apprehends and imprisons those accused of political crimes without due process.[225] People perceived as hostile to the government, such as Christians or critics of the leadership,[226] are deported to labor camps without trial,[227] often with their whole family and mostly without any chance of being released.[228] Based on satellite images and defector testimonies, Amnesty International estimates that around 200,000 prisoners are held in six large political prison camps,[226][229] where they are forced to work in conditions approaching slavery.[230] Supporters of the government who deviate from the government line are subject to reeducation in sections of labor camps set aside for that purpose. Those who are successfully rehabilitated may reassume responsible government positions on their release.[231]

North Korean defectors[232] have provided detailed testimonies on the existence of the total control zones where abuses such as torture, starvation, rape, murder, medical experimentation, forced labor, and forced abortions have been reported.[124] On the basis of these abuses, as well as persecution on political, religious, racial and gender grounds, forcible transfer of populations, enforced disappearance of persons and forced starvation, the United Nations Commission of Inquiry has accused North Korea of crimes against humanity.[233][234][235] The International Coalition to Stop Crimes Against Humanity in North Korea (ICNK) estimates that over 10,000 people die in North Korean prison camps every year.[236]

North Korea had an life expectancy of 69.8 years in 2013.[188] While North Korea is classified as a low-income country, the structure of North Korea's causes of death (2013) are unlike that of other low-income countries.[189] Instead, it is closer to worldwide averages, with non-communicable diseases - such as cardiovascular disease and cancers - accounting for two-thirds of the total deaths.[189]

A 2013 study reported that communicable diseases and malnutrition are responsible for 29% of the total deaths in North Korea. This figure is higher than those of high-income countries and South Korea, but half of the average 57% of all deaths in other low-income countries.[189] Infectious diseaseslike tuberculosis, malaria, and hepatitis B are considered to be endemic to the country as a result of the famine.[190]

Cardiovascular disease as a single disease group is the largest cause of death in North Korea (2013).[189] The three major causes of death in DPR Korea are ischaemic heart disease (13%), lower respiratory infections (11%) and cerebrovascular disease (7%).[191] Non-communicable diseases risk factors in North Korea include high rates of urbanisation, an aging society, high rates of smoking and alcohol consumption amongst men.[189]

Almost 100% of the population has access to water and sanitation.[192] 60% of the population had access to improved sanitation facilities in 2000.[193]

A free universal insurance system is in place,[30] but quality of medical care varies significantly by region.[194] Preventive medicine is emphasized through physical exercise and sports, nationwide monthly checkups and routine spraying of public places against disease. Every individual has a lifetime health card which contains a full medical record.[195]


Took me a simple Wikpedia search to debunk you.


:iconthe-conquerors:   i intive yout to have fun with this moron.
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014
I stopped reading after "white knighting."

Seriously? A 26-year-old possibly suburban white guy using the term "white knighting?"
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VanuInfiltrator Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I stopped reading after "The North Korean government hacked Sony pictures because of a movie they didn't like".
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015
No you didn't. You never read.

Reading's not your forte isn't it?
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VanuInfiltrator Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
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Gundaams Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015
Oh how adorable, you still use stupid insipid plz accounts from 2008.

Yes, I know what you're trying to say with that plz account, and no it isn't going to work on me, because I've once used that a few times before until I grew the fuck up.

That is a complete noob move on your part. ;)
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VanuInfiltrator Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Nice way to avoid the topic.
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015
You can't complain about me "avoiding the topic."

You want proof, you're getting it. Be a good little boy won't you?
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The-Conquerors Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
So I see you used the "I stopped reading" card you usually use. Gotta say it's one of my favorites from you. ~ C
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014
I'm glad it's your favorite because you realize I have standards.
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The-Conquerors Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I would tell you to trademark it but then you would be promoting capitalism :| ~ C
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345rv5 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014  Hobbyist
I'm not white retard.

And i live in a ghetto.

Double FAIL.


Also nice dodge of reality by focusing on words rather than facts, typical Hipster "Communist" fucktard who knows nothing about actual Communism and probably still wears his Che Guevara shrit to bed.

#NotYourSheild
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014
#NotYourShield is a shit tag only used by shut-ins who have zero social interaction.

I don't think you have any business saying "double fail" because that's not real life. Plus I call bullshit on the "I live in a ghetto" crap. None of the ghetto dudes I hang around with act the same way you do.
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345rv5 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014  Hobbyist
So you're basically calling women and minorities who play games "shut ins"  ?Whoa, you're a Racist, Misogynistic Bigot .

You mean your non existant black friends  ? 

So you think all Black people should be gangster hoodlums   ?  Whoa, who's the racist now bitch ?

Need proof of me being black?Here it is fuckboy.

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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014
So you're basically calling women and minorities who play games "shut ins"  ?Whoa, you're a Racist, Misogynistic Bigot .

You mean your non existant black friends  ? 

So you think all Black people should be gangster hoodlums   ?  Whoa, who's the racist now bitch ?


:iconrobinplz::iconsaysplz:Holy strawmen Batman! He's also given us irrelevant proof of who he is!
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345rv5 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014  Hobbyist
Mad that i'm actually a minority against your bullshit ? Mad that you can't use the straight white man "argument "?

The problem with you is that all you rely on is strawman and logical fallacies and outright disingenuous lies.

#NotYourShield 
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014
Nobody cares if you're a minority against my "bullshit." Plus if you think it's "bullshit," then honey, you've got a big storm coming.

Nobody knows who you are dude.
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Kim-Il-Songun Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Are you really serious? Ask yourself: would you really like to live there? And if the Kims aren't dictators, I'm wondering who in this world are dictators then. They aren't gods of course but in their country, they're considered and revered as such.
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014
I saw your avatar and didn't bother reading your comment.
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knopor Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014
Okay, several ways to easily refute this:
-If the country was so great, why isn't a visitor allowed to freely travel on their own terms?
-Why did North Korea not allow the UN in for an investigation?
-Why is it illegal to own a tunable AM/FM radio?
-Why did Kim Jong-un execute several officials for watching south Korean television dramas?
-Why is there testimony from Russians and Chinese nationals that studied there saying that it was even more secluded from the West than Russia or China.
-Why has the Ryudong hotel remained unfinished for a quarter century?
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014
Okay, several ways to easily refute this:

I stopped reading after this.
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knopor Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014
You have to be an American, or European. Nobody can possibly as childish as you have or afford internet outside those countries.
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014
Not a valid argument. You're defining me by nationality rather than my ethnicity which is half-Chinese and half-Polish and that "it has nothing to do with race" crap doesn't fly.

Calling you on your bullshit doesn't make me "childish" because that's not how logic works. The internet is EVERYWHERE. In pretty much EVERY single country in the world and I DO mean EVERY (except North Korea in which case you ARE correct in that regard so yes that would actually be a valid criticism of the country). African deviantART users exist (surprise).
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knopor Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014
Nationality is typically a better indicator for those in ethnically diverse and developed countries than ethnicity. No shit African deviantart users exist, I'm African, in case you don't know where Ghana is in the world. But the fact that North Korea doesn't have internet is really a good sign something's really fucking wrong there, as Liberia at least has some internet.
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DragonQuestWes Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014
Yes I DO know where Ghana is. I've studied Geography for almost a decade.

That's your only beef with North Korea. No internet. You can't live without internet can you? Which makes you a hikkikomori.
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